Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu!glenn From: glenn@curie.ces.cwru.edu (Glenn Crocker) Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos Subject: Re: BSD UNIX for 386sx pc? Message-ID: Date: 24 Apr 91 01:19:09 GMT References: <1991Apr18.150444.4735@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr> <22451@yunexus.YorkU.CA> <2426@pdxgate.UUCP> <22499@yunexus.YorkU.CA> <2446@pdxgate.UUCP> <2463@pdxgate.UUCP> Sender: news@usenet.ins.cwru.edu Organization: Case Western Reserve University Lines: 52 In-Reply-To: berggren@eecs.cs.pdx.edu's message of 24 Apr 91 00:37:07 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: curie.ces.cwru.edu In article <2463@pdxgate.UUCP> berggren@eecs.cs.pdx.edu (Eric Berggren) writes: glenn@gamow.ces.cwru.edu (Glenn Crocker) writes: >I've corresponded with william@okeefe.berkeley.edu on several occasions >about the 386bsd port, and have always found him to be quick to respond >and very helpful in his responses. Please don't be so quick to judge him. >I'm sure he's got reams (megs?) of email as a result of the DDJ articles. Well, the reply that somebody posted was helpful. I am still curious as to what exactly comes with 386BSD (is it assumed to be available yet)? Is it the full set of binaries and sources with installation utilities, or simply sources (with AT&T stuff removed) that must be ported by the user? Here's what I know: (Note that this is NOT official information in any way, and that you should take all of this with big grains of NaCl and that if ANYONE from Berkeley tells you something contradictory to this, take THEIR word for it.) Currently, BSD runs on 386's. The code isn't entirely AT&T free, though. For some amount of money (it was ~$500 in the past), you can get the BSD Reno (which doesn't include 386) code WITHOUT the AT&T code. This won't boot, but it's fun(?) to read. If you have an AT&T source license, you can get BSD that will boot. It will most likely cost some amount of money, but I don't know how much. The version of BSD that you can get if you have an AT&T license will boot, but doesn't include the 386 code. Therefore, there is (to my knowlege) no official channel for getting a bootable version of BSD for the 386. There may or may not be ways to get a bootable version currently, but you'll have to mail william@okeefee.berkeley.edu for more info. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful, but this is the vast majority of what I know about the situation. I've been trying to get the code for a little over a year, and have yet to get it to boot. Personally, I would recommend waiting until the 4.4 release and getting that. Also, there are ways for people with BSD licenses (which implies an AT&T source license [which implies .edu domain :-] ) to get Mach for the 386 from CMU. If you don't have an AT&T/BSD license, Mt. Xinu might be able to help you, but don't quote me on that. Eric Berggren | "Life is a Turing Test; Computer Science/Eng. | We're all automatons!" berggren@eecs.cs.pdx.edu | - (click, whir, buzz, chirp) -- Glenn Crocker | Your milage may vary. glenn@ces.cwru.edu | Light bar not for occupant protection. CWRU, Cleveland, OH | Don't drive on frozen lakes. W (216)368-6133 H (216)754-1314 | Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.