Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utcs.toronto.edu!cks Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards From: cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu (Chris Siebenmann) Subject: Re: X sucks (was: Re: Ware Ware Wizardjin) Message-ID: <1991Apr19.171707.8213@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> Organization: Ziebmef home away from home References: <9104141336.AA02335@.nextserver.cs.stthomas.edu.cs.stthomas.edu..> Date: 19 Apr 91 21:17:07 GMT Lines: 29 root@NEXTSERVER.CS.STTHOMAS.EDU (Max Tardiveau) writes: | This is obviously a matter of opinion. While I agree with you that | windowing systems take a large amount of power, I would argue that | it is not too much. I like having nice graphics on my workstation, | and I like to have responsive windows. How many people prefer nice graphics to more responsiveness? Given X cpu horsepower, it must be divided between responsiveness and pretty pictures somehow. Personally, I'd happily trade some of the pretty pictures for faster performance (especially application startup). X11 insists that I take most of the overhead for potential pretty pictures even if I never use them, which is annoyingly obnoxious. | And, like most people, I use only a small portion of the processing | power of my workstations (show me a Sparcstation that's 100% busy 100% | of the time. There are probably a few, but not a whole lot). Peak available CPU is also important -- probably more important than sustained CPU in terms of user satisfaction (when my machine dies during a compile I really notice -- far more than I notice the constant overhead various daemons take). I suspect, although I have no numbers to back this up, that most workstations have low CPU demands most of the time, but with very high peaks (more or less 100% utilization) when things do peak. -- "This will be dynamically handled, possibly correctly, in 4.1." - Dan Davison on streams configuration in SunOS 4.0 cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu ...!{utgpu,utzoo,watmath}!utgpu!cks