Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!mp.cs.niu.edu!bennett From: bennett@mp.cs.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Is it possible to hide process args from 'ps -ef'?? (Recap) Message-ID: <1991Apr24.042539.20069@mp.cs.niu.edu> Date: 24 Apr 91 04:25:39 GMT References: <1991Apr23.090439.29024@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> <1991Apr24.025417.5182@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Organization: Northern Illinois University Lines: 61 In article <1991Apr24.025417.5182@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> navarra@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John 'tms' Navarra) writes: >In article subbarao@phoenix (Kartik Subbarao) writes: >> [text deleted --SJB] >> >>Secondly, it's really simple to have the program read the "secret" >>arguments from the tty (maybe even using getpass!), rather than have to have >>them passed as arguments. > > Explain this one. If you don't have write access to other people's > terminals (which most systems don't now a days) how will you get the 'secret' > argument? [X-ray laser on] Read what he said again. He mentioned nothing at all about other users' terminals. He said the *program* should read from the tty instead of looking at *argv[]. In other words, the morons who wrote the data base program in question should have been roundly chastised by their management. The product should never have been allowed out the door in a form like that. The data base program should be fixed. There is no need whatsoever to adulterate the operating system to fix a third- party software vendor's bungling. The program should *also* turn off the echo before reading the password. After all, it *is* a *password* that the program is requiring. [X-ray laser off] >> >> >>In any event, systems programs should not be changed on simple whims like >>this. It's important that they be functional as they're expected to. Precisely. >> >> -Kartik > > [text deleted --SJB] >>-- >>internet# rm `df | tail +2 | awk '{ printf "%s/quotas\n",$6}'` >> >>subbarao@phoenix.Princeton.EDU -| Internet >>kartik@silvertone.Princeton.EDU (NeXT mail) >>SUBBARAO@PUCC.BITNET - Bitnet > > >-- >From the Lab of the MaD ScIenTiST: > >navarra@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG Systems Programming Northern Illinois University DeKalb, Illinois 60115 ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett@cs.niu.edu * * BITNET: A01SJB1@NIU * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "Spent a little time on the mountain, Spent a little time on the * * Hill, The things that went down you don't understand, But I * * think in time you will." Oakland, 19 Feb. 1991, first time * * since 25 Sept. 1970!!! Yippee!!!! Wondering what's NeXT... :-) * **********************************************************************