Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!uwm.edu!lll-winken!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdcad!amdcad!military From: bxr307@csc1.anu.edu.au Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: What's an "I" tank? Message-ID: <1991Apr19.070927.14046@amd.com> Date: 18 Apr 91 21:32:50 GMT References: <1991Apr17.055751.14155@amd.com> <1991Apr18.033055.22955@amd.com> Sender: military@amd.com Organization: Computer Services, Australian National University Lines: 37 Approved: military@amd.com From: bxr307@csc1.anu.edu.au >From: cmort@ncoast.org > Gee BXR, I've always envied you your M-113 Fire Support Vehicles (FSV). It > certainly seems like a cheap and effective solution to infantry fire support > against non-armored target (and BMPs too). I guess that it's too cheap > and effective to merit consideration from Ft. Benning! Of course we didn't > have a lot of armored car turrets sitting around either.... :) The FSV (as it was known. In a fit of renaming the Oz army has now designated them MRV - Med. Recce. Vehicle) is a neat solution. However its not meant to supply fire support for infantry. Its meant to supply fire support for recce squadrons, operating well forward of the normal artillery support. They were only deployed to the Recce Regiments, not to the APC units. That I think was a mistake, but, well I wasn't ever consulted on the matter. :-) I'd have rather seen each squadron of the APC units also equipped with an FSV vehicle. The Oz army though is about to have to come up with another solution similar to the MRV version of the M113 as its starting to aquire LAV-25's from the US to act as its wheeled recce vehicle in the North of Oz (2 Cav.Regt. is being redeployed to Darwin in the near future). I think they will most probably go for the obvious solution of purchasing Canadian versions of the Mowag Pirahana, which I believe are called "Grizzlies" and armed with the British Scorpion turret. BTW, while the original FSV had an armoured car turret off our old Saladins (and as a result was not capable of amphibious operations due to weight considerations), the latest version uses a Scorpion CVR(t) light tank turret and has extra floation panels attached. -- Brian Ross