Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!apple!veritas!amdcad!amdcad!military From: ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu (Gary Coffman) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Pegasus Message-ID: <1991Apr22.072403.26403@amd.com> Date: 21 Apr 91 15:30:08 GMT References: <1991Mar30.020340.27985@amd.com> <1991Apr12.055442.14741@amd.com> <1991Apr17.055545.13756@amd.com> <1991Apr18.032927.22679@amd.com> Sender: military@amd.com Organization: Gannett Technologies Group Lines: 57 Approved: military@amd.com From: ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu (Gary Coffman) This is in response to Henry and John Prentice who question the need for detailed pictures from the proposed small tactical satellites. prentice%triton.unm.edu@ariel.unm.edu (John Prentice) writes: >launched cheap and dirty satellite. Also, you don't necessarily need >high resolution. For example, to see a convoy you don't need to be able >to read their license plates. The is probably true, but you *do* need to be over the target area when the convoy is there. My primary objection to tactical satellites is that they are over the target area for no more than twenty minutes a day in two ten minute passes separated by 12 hours. No quick launch satellite seems likely to be as useful to a tactical commander as a directed overflight with a recon aircraft would be. Nor would the quick looks by the small satellite be more useful than continous surveillance from a high orbit satellite system. Catching convoys on the ground seems a better mission for GSTARS aircraft than for a satellite that you may have to wait as much as twelve hours to access. Depending on the satellite design and the geography, you might have to wait for the satellite to pass over your location in order to program it to look at the area that you are interested in, wait for it to pass directly over that area maybe 12 hours later, then wait for it to return over your position another 12 hours later for the data dump. A 24 to 36 hour reaction time certainly seems less than timely for tactical data. Contrast this to the 1 hour or so turnaround from a ready recon aircraft or the near realtime info from a GSTARS aircraft or data relayed from a coordinated series of strategic high orbit satellites. It seems to me that the best system for satellite tactical recon would require a series of satellites in relatively high, >1000 mile, orbit where they would get a near hemispheric view. A target area could be handed off from one satellite to the next in such a fashion that the target area could be under near continous realtime surveillance. This type of system would require national strategic control centers rather than being operated at a field commander's whim. A use once and throw away system would still likely require one orbit to stablize the satellite and check out the cameras followed by another orbit to acquire the data and access to a global high data rate satellite communications network to relay the data back to the commander in the field. All of this would require coordination with national centers. It would be hardly as cost efficient or timely as simply ordering up a recon aircraft. This all sounds more like Pegasus and litesat proponents looking for a mission rather than an actual operational niche that needs to be filled. Gary