Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero-c!nadel From: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no (Steinar Haug) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: does healthy, mutual erotica exist? Message-ID: <1991Apr19.213039*Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no> Date: 20 Apr 91 02:30:39 GMT References: <1991Apr15.170141.19828@watcgl.waterloo.edu> Sender: news@ugle.unit.no Organization: DELAB SINTEF, Trondheim, Norway. Lines: 27 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org In-Reply-To: hrdoucet@watcgl.waterloo.edu's message of 18 Apr 91 17:44:10 GMT Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org i know the answer to my side of the question. my husband doesnt read playboy, but he does read mayfair (british) and cupido (norwegian) on occasion. i dont mind him looking at female bodies. i myself happen to find some female bodies interesting to look at. he obviously gets some sexual excitement out of them, but since most of the time he reads these when i'm "unavailable" (he's on a business trip, i'm sick, etc.) or reads cupido together with me (it is intended for both sexes), i dont mind that. if he read them and ignored me when i was making it clear i was ready, willing and able, i know i'd mind. and i know he'd mind if i did the same thing with women's magazines. we've discussed this. i would strongly mind it, though, if he read violent porn. (does playboy really fall into this category? i've never looked at it, or playgirl either for that matter, so i have no idea, really.) looking at female bodies and felling pleasure because they are beautiful bodies is one thing. that to me simply presents the attitude "here are some attractive women". violent porn presents a different attitude, "here are some attractive women, isn't it fun to see them get hurt?" i object to that on principal, and i dont want it in our apartment. it's not him reading it specifically that i mind, it's the violent porn in general. i know he would never harm a woman for sexual fun. he's too tender hearted and gentle, which is one of the reasons i married him. but, now that i think about it, that may also explain why he's never read violent porn (that i know of anyway). maybe it bugs him too? i'll have to ask him... -cindy kandolf cindy@solan.unit.no trondheim, norway