Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: goguenm@chopin.udel.edu (Matthew L Goguen) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Unforgiveable Sins Message-ID: Date: 23 Apr 91 07:07:32 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 54 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article jclark@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (John Clark) writes: >>In article goguenm@chopin.udel.edu (Matthew L Goguen) writes: >+ >+>Maybe so however check out SATANISM some time you might >+>like their mercy and kindness better. >+>They would like to see you dead only they won't tell you that. > >You conviently ignore any Christian based group's crimes. Just >recent history, Jones Town 900 people dead; an excommunicated Mormon >group in OHIO 4 or 5 dead(I consider Mormons and related groups to >be essentially Christian derivatives and definately not 'Satanist'); > >Of course and 'true' Christian group would not do these things so >clearly these must be works of the 'Devil' to confuse the masses. >It would seem that true Christians set around and blame the 'evil one' >rather than looking into themselves. The logical extension of 'no >one goes to the Father, exept by Me' is that everything which is not >Christianity is of the 'Disceiver'. >-- > >John Clark If you have such insight please share with us what these cults followed from the BIBLE in thier acts of crime. Yes, I attribute many of things to Demonic influence but not Demonic control. God is the one who has the final say. (I do not consider cults to be christian because they stray from the preached words of Christ.) As to the 'Devil' having influence and confusing the masses, it is written about in the new testiment where it tells us to put on the whole armour of God. He walks about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. (IT is written.) We don't wrestle against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers and spiritual wickedness in high places. My battle is not with you, John, it is with the deception of Satan in the masses, government, and "religious" leaders. These are the ones I find more dangerous than murders because their crimes are not recognised as such and they are subtle in the meathods. We don't blame Satan for our downfalls, we blame ourselves for letting us be decieved by him. True christians are far from perfect, but they understand this, accept it, accept Christ's gift and move on. A just man will fall seven times and rise up again but the wicked will fall unto mischief. I have fallen at times and I still do. God corrects me and raises me back up again to do His will. I am involved in a war that can not be seen. It is a war for eternal life that is not seen by most. There are two sides to this war. God's and Satans. God is the one that we do not tend to naturally, he calls us. Therefore unless you are called by God and corrected by him, you serve the 'Deceiver'. Now read my sig and tell me if you can understand it. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // Matthew L. Goguen // Choose this day whom ye // // ELEG(SOPH) // will serve as for me and // // goguenm@chopin.udel.edu // my house we will serve // // goguenm@brahms.udel.edu // the LORD. Joshua 24:15 // //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////