Path: utzoo!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!apple!well!jef From: jef@well.sf.ca.us (Jef Poskanzer) Newsgroups: alt.hackers Subject: (11feb91) Welcome to alt.hackers - automated posting. Message-ID: <24199@well.sf.ca.us> Date: 14 Apr 91 15:08:50 GMT Expires: 28 Apr 91 15:08:48 GMT Reply-To: Jef Poskanzer Followup-To: no followups, please Organization: Paratheo-Anametamystikhood Of Eris Esoteric, Ada Lovelace Cabal Lines: 43 Approved: jef@well.sf.ca.us This message is automatically posted once a week to inform new readers and remind old readers of what alt.hackers is about. It was last changed on 11feb91. If you don't want to see this posting every week, please add the subject line to your kill file. Thank you. --- Jef Jef Poskanzer jef@well.sf.ca.us {ucbvax, apple, hplabs}!well!jef "...Is this a trick question?" - - - - - - - - - - 1) This newsgroup is for reporting what you have hacked on lately. No hack too big or small. Discussion and requests for assistance are not allowed unless you also contribute a report of something you did. This one rule is not enforced, but I encourage everyone to ignore people who violate it, or if you must, remind them of the rule via email instead of via further inappropriate postings. To cut down on mindless violations of the rule, the group is self-moderated - marked as moderated, but with no moderator's address. Anyone who can figure out how to approve a message is welcome to post. I'm not going to post the (trivial) instructions for actually doing it. 2) Do not post test messages. If you are so under-confident in your ability to post to a moderated group that you must first post a test message, please put in a "Distribution: local". The entire net does not need to see your test. 3) The netnews administrator at Rutgers has set up a mail-to-news gateway that defeats the self-moderation of this group. What's worse, some other netnews admins have set up the Rutgers gateway as the alt.hackers moderation address. The result is that at many sites, you can just post a message to this group without any special tricks, and naturally most of the messages posted this way are trash. I have exchanged email with the Rutgers postmaster about this, and he refuses to change anything, and in fact denies that it's a problem. Therefore I have started cancelling all alt.hackers messages posted through Rutgers. This is not a good solution, but I can't think of any better ones. If you can, please write; or if you want to join in the cancelling, I'll be happy to send you the (trivial!) script.