Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!ox.com!ox.com!emv From: emv@ox.com (Ed Vielmetti) Subject: Re: PPP: Let's create comp.protocols.ppp In-Reply-To: brian@telebit.com's message of 24 Apr 91 23:58:27 GMT Message-ID: Sender: usenet@ox.com (Usenet News Administrator) Organization: OTA Limited Partnership, Ann Arbor MI. References: <1991Apr19.054904.23533@telebit.com> <1991Apr21.052511.22841@onion.rain.com> <17113@celit.fps.com> <1991Apr24.235827.26048@telebit.com> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1991 02:34:22 GMT In article <1991Apr24.235827.26048@telebit.com> brian@telebit.com (Brian Lloyd) writes: I guess that bottom line is that there is interest in forming this new newsgroup regardless of its name. No name yet proposed is optimal but not having the newsgroup is definitely suboptimal. I have never created a newsgroup before so I will leave it up to someone else to do. If someone else with more experience does not do it within a day or two, I will. Brian, please don't just create the group. There is an established protocol for creating a new newsgroup; it's rather speedier than (e.g.) the ISO standardization process, but it does take a while to spin itself out. Right now we're in the "discussion" phase, which involves a ritual wailing and gnashing of teeth over picking the right name. The prescribed time for that is two weeks (see news.announce.newgroups). I'm collecting all of the traffic about PPP, in all of the groups that I get and will include that information in the "call for votes" which looks like I'm going to start some time in May. The vote itself will take all of May (about a month). Although it's kind of a pain that traffic is spread around, it's useful to wait for all of the necessary usenet rules have been waited for. It's just not practical for news administrators to have to guess whether new groups are valid, and going through the ritual ensures plenty of advance billing and time to prepare for the easy to answer questions. For now, there's always the IETF PPP mailing list, subscriptions to ietf-ppp-request@ucdavis.edu. Between now and say June 1, use comp.dcom.modems and comp.dcom.lans for this kind of stuff; after that, the group (whatever its name is) show have plenty of reasonable traffic. My preference is comp.protocols.ppp, in no small part because "ppp" is a unique enough and catchy enough acronym to be easily found in vast volumes of news by automatic methods. "serial internetworking" or some contraction of it is more descriptive but much hard to grep for.... -- Msen Edward Vielmetti /|--- moderator, comp.archives emv@msen.com "(6) The Plan shall identify how agencies and departments can collaborate to ... expand efforts to improve, document, and evaluate unclassified public-domain software developed by federally-funded researchers and other software, including federally-funded educational and training software; " High-Performance Computing Act of 1991, S. 218