Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!dali.cs.montana.edu!ogicse!intelhf!ichips!iwarp.intel.com!gargoyle!chinet!les From: les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) Newsgroups: comp.editors Subject: Re: Whence vi's hjkl? Message-ID: <1991Apr23.141747.5454@chinet.chi.il.us> Date: 23 Apr 91 14:17:47 GMT References: <1991Apr15.021544.19067@umbc3.umbc.edu> <110300005@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com> Organization: Chinet - Chicago Public Access UNIX Lines: 32 In article <110300005@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com> bill@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com (Bill Frolik) writes: >> I find it somewhat annoying to have to move my fingers away from the >> "home" position to move the cursor. Does anyone consider the usual {h,j,k,l} >> choice natural? Does anyone have an explanation for the choice? >I find it annoying, too -- it's one more reason why I prefer Emacs over vi. Huh? The emacs equivalents of ^B,^N,^P,^F and not only not on the home row but they take both hands (or long pinkies). I always use the space bar to move forward which is the only direction you should be going unless you have made a mistake anyway. >I'm a fairly fast touch-typist, and you'd have a hard time convincing >me that any touch-typist would initially consider it "natural". Why should cursor-movement be "natural" for a touch typist. If you are typing text in, you really don't do much cursor positioning other than forward (space/tab) or down (enter). For more than a backspace/retype kind of correction you are probably far enough away from the desired point that a "search" type command or "go to beginning/end of object" would be more effective than banging on a single-step motion key. >If, however, you use only your right hand and DON'T put your left hand on >the keyboard, it seems to become a somewhat more natural place for one's >fingers to fall (if that means anything). Aha - that's why I like vi! I can drink coffee with my left hand while browsing through files with my right. Les Mikesell les@chinet.chi.il.us