Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!agate!ucbvax!EMBL.BITNET!VOGT From: VOGT@EMBL.BITNET (Gerhardt Vogt) Newsgroups: comp.lang.modula2 Subject: Re: New JPI version (TopSpeed 3.0) Message-ID: <85857F7179BFE012D3@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> Date: 25 Apr 91 10:38:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Modula2 List Organization: The Internet Lines: 34 >>debugger, helpsystem,...) and one of the compilers. For a 2-parts-system the >>special CeBIT offer was DM 460,- (round about $270). On the basis of better >>prices in USA you may have to pay $99 per part, but this doubles the price for >>a minimal system to $198. >> >>Greetings, Frank. >Sigh, we still a bit better than the current system. They should sell >one complete language for $99.00 (or 150.00, give some kind of break). >Such is life. >Greetings ... Greg When I the system 3 or 4 years ago, it was superior to all development system I knew and it was really cheap. In the meantime they removed several parts that I liked very much and made the system much more expensive. I've been on CeBIT and had a very long discussion with several people from JPI. At the beginning one got library sources free. Now they sell it (cheaper then their competitors) seperately. And C++ and C are two different languages for them which you have to buy (and pay) seperatly. So the price is even higher than it looks at the first glance. On the CeBit I had the feeling that 3.0 is mainly a bug fix version (the environment did not change very much) and (i might be wrong) is still not usable with a mouse (i mean practically usable, in theory it's of course possible). The ugrade price isn't bug fix like. Anyway, I wait for my update because I would like to try some Win 3 programming and the beta version I have gave me the feeling that it is better to program the Win interface in C which I cannot do with the beta version. Gerhard Disclaimer: I don't have 3.0 yet and it might be superior to all existing systems and worth at least twice its price.