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From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: How to get files from piggy via mail
Message-ID: <9104241740.34@rmkhome.UUCP>
Date: 25 Apr 91 02:58:00 GMT
References: <15889112@mailgsm.mendelson.com>
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
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In article <15889112@mailgsm.mendelson.com> root@mailgsm.mendelson.com (Superuser) writes:
>hans@pine.circa.ufl.edu (Hans van Oostrom) writes:
>>
[ ftp by mail from BITNET deleted ]
>>
>BITNET has a very strict charter concerning what you can and cannot do. Before
>anyone starts getting large files over the BITNET-INTERNET bridge, they should
>get permission of the people at Princeton (PUCC).
>
>While there is no techincal reason that prevents using it, you may find there
>is a political one. My personal experience is that minor infractions of the 
>BITNET rules will be overlooked, but major ones are not.
>
>Have any of you noticed that there is no BITNET connection to the commerical
>information services?
>
>This is because the BITNET board of directors (unlike the INTERNET "net.gods" 
>that no one has ever seen, the board is real people.) refused to allow them 
>access. Commerical networks are not for the likes of BITNET.
>
>You can get mail to/from compuserve via the INTERNET, but that is overlooked 
>as long as the volume stays small.  
>
>If the BITNET users of bitftp were to start complaining about turnaround time,
>there might be trouble. 
>
>As part of a project for a client I was required to read all the documentation
>and contracts BITNET provided. These people take their network seriously. They
>use it to perform their daily work. They will not take kindly to someone 
>tying up their INTERNET mail bridge to sneak ftp access.
>
>For example, people at commerical installations (sort of second class citizens)
>are allowed unlimited mail to/from noncomercial ones, but the only allowable 
>mail between commerical installations is that which "relates to the operation of
>the network".


This seems logical to me.  We have comp.os.coherent, let's use it for sources
for now.  If it gets swamped, then we will open a discussion for a new group.

If everyone who uses Coherent starts using BITNET for ftp by mail, BITNET
will be extremely pissed.

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	frog!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP