Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!tivoli!alan From: alan@tivoli.UUCP (Alan R. Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Not engineers Message-ID: <699@tivoli.UUCP> Date: 24 Apr 91 00:30:51 GMT References: <1991Apr17.144402.16637@sparky.IMD.Sterling.COM> <684@tivoli.UUCP> <33297@mimsy.umd.edu> Reply-To: alan@tivoli.UUCP (Alan R. Weiss) Organization: Tivoli Systems Inc., Austin, TX Lines: 55 In article <33297@mimsy.umd.edu> straub@cs.umd.edu (Pablo A. Straub) writes: >In article <684@tivoli.UUCP> alan@tivoli.UUCP (Alan R. Weiss) writes: >> [...] [Regarding the Hollywood Model of Software Development (tm)]: >This may be a great idea in an organization that develops games and >educational programs, for after all the end product is like that in the >entertainment industry. Software that will be used directly by many >people (e.g., a spreadsheet for a microcomputer) might probably fit this >mold too. Attempting to generalize this scheme to all other software >products (e.g., custom software, engineering software) is at least naive >and at worst irresponsible. Gee, its nice to see me called irresponsible for a change. Most people who know me (and have read my prior postings) would call me SUPER-responsible. I am advocating research into this approach, and tolerance for controlled experimentation. You must be new to this newsgroup, Pablo. >> As Tom Peters has said, "try it, break it, fix, repeat." Organizations >> should be free to experiment, SO LONG AS THEIR STAFFS ARE NOT >> THREATENED AND YOU GET BUY-IN. > >But an engineering approach to experimentation must be guided by the >organizations' goals, not just the curiosity of individual staff >members. > > >Pablo A. Straub >straub@cs.umd.edu I partially agree: there should be goals in mind, both organizationally and personally. But to ignore curiosity is a devastating mistake. You MUST encourage curiosity: in the entire history of scientific and engineering breakthroughs, its usually been a megalomaniac on a mission [grins!] who makes the breakthrough, along with LOTS of contributors to polish, refine, and improve the technology. NOT XOR, but rather AND! I encourage well-intentioned risk-taking, and reward for learning from honest mistakes. I didn't ALWAYS do this :-), but we all learn. I refer you to "PeopleWare", by Tony DeMarco, and "Mythical Man Month", by Frederick Brooks. _______________________________________________________________________ Alan R. Weiss TIVOLI Systems, Inc. E-mail: alan@tivoli.com 6034 West Courtyard Drive, E-mail: alan@whitney.tivoli.com Suite 210 Voice : (512) 794-9070 Austin, Texas USA 78730 Fax : (512) 794-0623 _______________________________________________________________________