Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!wrdis01!gatech!udel!rochester!kodak!uupsi!sunic!news.funet.fi!jyu.fi!sakkinen From: sakkinen@jyu.fi (Markku Sakkinen) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Provocative statement Message-ID: <1991Apr25.133216.20855@jyu.fi> Date: 25 Apr 91 13:32:16 GMT References: <9776@castle.ed.ac.uk> Reply-To: sakkinen@jytko.jyu.fi (Markku Sakkinen) Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland Lines: 28 In article <9776@castle.ed.ac.uk> cmb@castle.ed.ac.uk (Colin Brough) writes: > ... >In article 2355 of comp.parallel, Steven Ericsson Zenith > writes: >> ... >> And that's the point most Europeans don't understand. Engineer's don't >> build bridges to fine tolerances - as suggested by the Computer Science >> formal methods community. They use over-kill in the main. Materials and >> designs proven to work from experience and then some!! Very few bridges >> fall down. The number that do is a tolerable expediency. > >The interesting point is not so much the difference between Europe and >the US, but rather the 'over-kill' approach. Do people think this is >one way in which 'software engineering' will progress in the future? If the bridge designer wants to have a greater security factor, (s)he can specify a little thicker steel and cables than suggested by standard calculations. The software designer cannot say: "This system has to be really safe and secure, so let's put in 30% more code!" Markku Sakkinen Department of Computer Science and Information Systems University of Jyvaskyla (a's with umlauts) PL 35 SF-40351 Jyvaskyla (umlauts again) Finland SAKKINEN@FINJYU.bitnet (alternative network address)