Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uunet!igor!rutabaga!jls From: jls@rutabaga.Rational.COM (Jim Showalter) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: education (was: Re: bridge building) Message-ID: Date: 26 Apr 91 21:12:23 GMT References: <33407@mimsy.umd.edu> <33506@mimsy.umd.edu> Sender: news@Rational.COM Distribution: na Lines: 25 >Well, ok fella, I know you're just making a joke. ha ha. Sorry, it was in rather poor taste. I meant by it that the problem of re-education (or, in some cases, EDUCATION) is so difficult that at times it seems intractable and the response is to throw up my hands in disgust and suggest violence... The company I work at sells tools to aid software engineers, but for us to be successful we also have to act as catalysts for the growth of a software engineering culture itself. Our role is often more of an educator than a vendor, and it is a long slow uphill grind in many places. But we are making progress. We're in violent agreement--I have no argument with anything in your fine post. And, by the way, this is a GREAT quote: >sometimes you >have to stop fighting fires long enough to turn off the gas. -- * "Beyond 100,000 lines of code, you should probably be coding in Ada." * * - P.G. Plauger, Convener and Secretary of the ANSI C Committee * * * * The opinions expressed herein are my own. *