Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!lll-winken!uunet!uunet.UU.NET!sef From: epstein@trwacs.uucp (Jeremy Epstein) Newsgroups: comp.std.unix Subject: Re: Opinions on prospective standards sought Message-ID: <130291@uunet.UU.NET> Date: 24 Apr 91 02:53:38 GMT References: <130193@uunet.UU.NET> <130193@uunet.UU.NET>, Sender: usenet@uunet.UU.NET Organization: TRW Systems Division, Fairfax VA Lines: 43 Approved: sef@uunet.uu.net (Moderator, Sean Eric Fagan - comp.std.unix) Nntp-Posting-Host: uunet.uu.net X-Submissions: std-unix@uunet.uu.net Originator: sef@uunet.UU.NET Submitted-by: epstein@trwacs.uucp (Jeremy Epstein) In article <130193@uunet.UU.NET>, pc@hillside.co.uk (Peter Collinson) writes: > Submitted-by: pc@hillside.co.uk (Peter Collinson) > > OSF had sent in a request to be allowed to create a standard based on > Motif. The request is technically called a PAR - a Project > Authorization Request. Not to be outdone and with great regret, Sun > sent in a PAR for a standard based on OpenLook. > > [stuff deleted] > > The final decision of the SEC (Sponsor Executive Committee), the body > charged with making a decision about the PARs, was effectively to say: > at this time, we will not go ahead with accepting the proposals as > POSIX projects. I was at POSIX, but (fortunately) missed the SEC meeting. [I was told that the Motif v. OPEN LOOK battle lasted for about six hours!] Since Peter asked for comments, I think the SEC made the right decision. I don't know their rationale, but I see no purpose to two (mutually incompatible) standards which cover the same general area. As a developer, this gives me virtually no help. I'd also like to point out that both OPEN LOOK and Motif are relatively young (only a few years old), and that it's probably a good idea to get more market acceptance before trying to standardize. Finally, I'd suggest that direct ballot is really not a good idea for things which are still quite controversial (i.e., look & feel, applications interfaces). Now that I've displayed my ignorance of the subject...Peter, can you post a summary of the SEC's rationale in rejecting the PARs? That may help channel this discussion. --Jeremy -- Jeremy Epstein UUCP: uunet!trwacs!epstein Trusted X Research Group Internet: epstein@trwacs.fp.trw.com TRW Systems Division Voice: +1 703/876-8776 Fairfax Virginia Volume-Number: Volume 23, Number 39