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From: davewt@NCoast.ORG (David Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 1000 Abandonment
Summary: Oh please...
Message-ID: <1991Apr29.023621.25545@NCoast.ORG>
Date: 29 Apr 91 02:36:21 GMT
References: <1991Apr28.105420.21619@agora.rain.com>
Organization: North Coast Public Access Un*x (ncoast)
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In article <1991Apr28.105420.21619@agora.rain.com> robart@agora.rain.com (Robert Barton) writes:
>pwvicory@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Paul William Vicory) writes:
>> Will Commodore, if they are really interested in selling the new Amiga's [sic],
>> offer some kind of discount to those who invested heavily in the Amiga at the
>> outset.
>
>> None of us could take advantage of the Commodore buyback offer of last year:
>> we were all still paying off or recovering from the loans we took out to get
>> these Amiga's.
>
>  Having 5 years to pay off a $1300 product doesn't sound all that onerous.
>But in any event, the new program is a simple discount which doesn't require
>you to give back your computer or even your keyboard.  And you end up with
>an A3000 rather than the A2000 like last year's offer.
	Are these people for real? I have heard this so many times I am
getting sick of it. It always goes something like this:
	"I took a gamble early-on with C=/Amiga when they were shaky, now
	I want to get something in return".
In general, you can pick any of these apropriate responses:
	1) You ARE getting something in return, to see the Amiga FINALLY
	   do well!
	2) What? You expect C= to "give you something" for a ONE TIME
	   purchase, ONCE, OVER 5 YEARS ago (if the person is really being
	   honest about when they bought their Amiga 1000)?
(Please! I bought my 1000 when they were $1250, for 256k, no monitor included
at that price. Total package price was about $2000. I didn't expect them to
give me a DIME on a trade-in when I bought a 2000, and I didn't take advantage
of the "1000 + $1000" offer because I wanted to HELP the Amiga communitee
and C= itself (I didn't know what they would do with the 1000's at the time.
I thought that C= might be absorbing the cost (which they did to a small
extent) and I didn't want to take any money out of their pockets), so I sold
my ENTIRE 1000 system (2 floppies, 2 meg of RAM, 20 meg HD) for $500 to someone
who could use it, and who has been a loyal Amiga owner ever since. When I
got my 3000 I again basically "gave away" my 2000 to someone else who could
make good use of it, rather than asking if C= would "give me anything for
supporting them". They have. The *BEST* computer system you can buy, for
the least amount of money, and yet still have a (for the most part)
completely upward compatible path to expend. So again, are you SERIOUS when
you want them to help YOU out, who paid LESS then I did for your system,
ONCE, over 5 years ago, with probably NO further purchases of C=
equipment in all that time (do you have a C= external drive or a cheaper,
3rd-party drive that didn't put a dime in their pockets?). And I'm not
rich, either. When I got my 1000 I was 18, just moved out of my parent house
and into an apartment to go to school in the area with just about the
highest cost of living outside the LA area (New England), in which I had to
support myself. I got my 1000 by using my student loan, and working my
A** off at night time jobs. I took out a $3500 loan to buy my 3000 setup
(although part of that includes other accessories like a UPS system),
and just make it by each month. Please don't say your more hard up than me.)

	3) Have you EVER heard of ANY other computer manufacturer offering
	   a *reasonable* trade-in policy? What were the options that IBM
	   gave "Peanut" (PC Jr.) owners? That Apple gave Lisa owners.
	   Certainly NOTHING like what C= offered TWICE to 1000 owners
	   already. And you want MORE?


Burnin on the "mistake by the lake"



					Dave