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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Blaine Gardner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Burn MACWorld... BURN!
Message-ID: <1991Apr25.144621.9324@javelin.sim.es.com>
Date: 25 Apr 91 14:46:21 GMT
References: <1991Apr18.145736.10717@javelin.sim.es.com> <0gyN19w164w@graphics.rent.com> <1991Apr20.143022.27618@javelin.sim.es.com> <2342@wet.UUCP>
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Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
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pk@wet.UUCP (Philip King) writes:
>In article <1991Apr20.143022.27618@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>>bobl@graphics.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdm) writes:
>>>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Blaine Gardner) writes:
>>>> Ok, a Toaster for $1400, an A2000 for $1600 (WAG at an OEM price),
>>>> that's still a $1000 pure profit on the "stand alone" Toaster. :-)
 
>Hey, I thought the Toaster would hardly even *RUN* in an unaccelerated
>Amiga?!?  And I also heard you're fooling yourself if you try to run it
>in less than 6 megs of RAM.  

The Toaster runs just fine on a stock 2000, but if you're going to do
much rendering with Lightwave, then you want an accelerator. NewTek
recommends a minimum of 5 meg, but people with Toasters say that 7 or 9
meg is much better.

>How the heck can they sell this thing as a useful tool, if it's that
>crippled?  Any chance it's either accelerated or has lots'o ram?  If not,
>it's a _real_ joke.

First, I don't know exactly what the Stand-Alone Toaster includes for
$4000, the blurb on BIX didn't go into much detail. But it would be a
common marketing practice to sell a very minimal base system, and then
offer lots of wonderful performance upgrades for the Stand-Alone
Toaster. If the customer is ignorant enough of the Amiga to buy the
"stand-alone" version, you can probably make a killing selling him
"Toaster specific" upgrades like the A2630 or GVP accelerators.

I can see it now, a whole new cottage industry supporting the "stand-
alone" Toaster, with a staggering array of products ranging from hardware
accelerators to mass storage. And maybe even things like video games and
word processors that will run on the "stand-alone" Toaster. Of course
the prices for such items will have to reflect the rarified atmosphere
of the Macintosh and video production markets. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com                               BIX: blaine_g
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