Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!uwvax!daffy!cat52.cs.wisc.edu!pochron From: pochron@cat52.cs.wisc.edu (David Pochron) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc Subject: Re: Few questions/observations about the A3000 Summary: I wouldn't keep KickStart on disk if I were you... Keywords: KS 2.0 Message-ID: <1991Apr24.172714.462@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> Date: 24 Apr 91 17:27:14 GMT References: <1991Apr22.184252.10274@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> <1991Apr23.143421.17738@javelin.sim.es.com> Sender: news@daffy.cs.wisc.edu (The News) Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 47 In article <1991Apr23.143421.17738@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes: >No disadvantages that I can see, except you give up 512K of RAM to the >Kickstart image that's loaded from disk. The advantages to the current >setup is you can upgrade the OS from a floppy, without having to open >the case. Since RAM is cheap, and RAM is faster than ROM, I plan to stay >with the disk-based Kickstart myself. Unless I am mistaken, I don't think Commodore will be releasing a disk-based final version of Kickstart this time around. Considering the only machines that *need* a disk based version of KS are the 1000's, and CBM has yet to give the green light for 2.0 support on it, (that is, though it is possible (now even) for 2.0 to run on the 1000's, CBM has to officially "sanction" it) I wouldn't hold my breath for a disk-based version of KS, except for any further pre-releases. (You could use them, if you don't mind using slightly buggy, gamma versions.) Furthermore, unless you have a pre-3000 Amiga with a faster CPU & 32 bit RAM, there is no speed difference between running KS in ROM and running KS in RAM! (I thought this was all discussed in c.s.a.h several months ago about ROM vs RAM...) Also, it is highly unlikely that CBM will continue to release KS 2.0 upgrades on disk after the ROM's are out. If any changes are made, they will be done through SetPatch. I hope I am not sounding too harsh, but I just don't see any advantage to using up 512K of precious RAM on the 3000's, + HD space, (or waiting for KS to load from floppy, (arg!)) just to have KS in RAM when there won't be any need to. (And again, any disk-based version is bound to not be as up-to-date as the final ROM version will be.) As for 2000 owners with 68020/30's, (like me) having SetCPU just download the OS from ROM into 32 bit RAM is much easier than having an image of it out on disk. If I need to use 1.3, SetCPU provides that feature already... >Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland 580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108 >blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com BIX: blaine_g >DoD #46 My other motorcycle is a Quadracer. FJ1200 -- David M. Pochron | Transparent DWV pipe: For the man who wants to | see it all... pochron@garfield.cs.wisc.edu | (If you don't know what DWV is, get a life! :-)