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From: mattd@Apple.COM (Matt Deatherage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Come on, peops!
Message-ID: <51971@apple.Apple.COM>
Date: 24 Apr 91 22:41:48 GMT
References: <2136.apple.a2.net@pro-nbs>
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA
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In article <2136.apple.a2.net@pro-nbs> lhaider@pro-nbs.cts.com (Laer Haider) writes:
>In-Reply-To: message from twb5024@zeus.tamu.edu
>
>>        This is getting a bit ridiculous.  Making Andy and/or Dave defend
>>and/or explain Apple's intent with the GS, at any level beyond what has
>>already been released by Apple, is totally out of line.  Here are a couple
>>of guys working hard on GS stuff and taking time out to help with tech
>...
>
>Seriously, the remarks and complaints about Apple are the result of the
>crap we II users have been put through over the past few years.  No one
>is blaming Andy or Dave.  I think the blame has been put squarely and
>rightly on Apple, Inc.  There's no need for anyone (including Andy and
>Dave, or even Matt for that matter) to work up a huff over it.  Nice
>explanations, or even bad explanations, of what's going on is something
>all of us on the net are hungry for.
>
>I appreciate what those at Apple II DTS and all the II software guys are
>doing for us.  I don't think ANYONE here feels otherwise.  We would all just
>like to see something positive released; and more of it.  The Apple II isn't
>keeping up with the world you know.  I'd just like to get a little closer to
>everyone else's machine.
>
On the contrary.

The reason I left this newsgroup nearly a year ago and haven't been back is
that I was receiving both public and private messages from various individuals
from comp.sys.apple2 stating quite clearly that they DID hold me personally
responsible for Apple's lack of action, and that if I went to sleep at night
when there was more that could be done, I was a slacker, a conspirator, a Mac-
drone, another Apple corporate brainwash, etc., etc.

These were not people who came and left comp.sys.apple2 like gay-bashers on
soc.motss.  These are people who are still prolific and have posted within the
past several days.  And they are the reason that, with very occasional 
dalliances like yesterday and today, I still don't read this group.

>BTW, Geez, do you kiss butt like that all the time?

I don't even know who wrote the original message because I don't hang around
comp.sys.apple2 anymore.  But I'm glad he did, so get off his back.