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From: -Rich-@cup.portal.com (Richard Sherman Payne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: So? Did the announcement happen?
Message-ID: <41630@cup.portal.com>
Date: 25 Apr 91 02:10:44 GMT
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>In article <41602@cup.portal.com> -Rich-@cup.portal.com (Richard Payne)
>writes:
>
>>>Assuming that you're talking about me, I kind of doubt that Apple is locking
>>>me into an "Ivory Tower" -- I'm working harder towards contributing towards
>>>the Apple II far more now than I was before just working on ShrinkIt.
>
>>>I have no substantive way to prove this...
>
>Reread that, it's important ^^^
>
>>>didn't think possible in the time given.  I'm just one person, and I've
>>>done the very best I could.
>
>Perhaps I should rephrase that to read: I'm only human, and I've done the best
>job that I could -- the point that I'm trying to make is that there are
>limits to what I can do.  If that's not good enough for some people, I'm truly
>sorry, but I can't do any better.
>
>>Cmon Andy, are'nt you under some sort of a non-disclosure aggrement?
>
>Yes I am.  Does signing a non-disclosure statement mean that I am
>automatically condemned to "Ivory Tower" status because I can keep a secret?
>
>The point I was trying to make was that just because you don't see me
>contributing doesn't mean that I'm not contributing.  We can all contribute in
>our own way -- I'm trying my own way by working at Apple, and trying my best.
>
>andy
>
>-- 
>Andy Nicholas                  GEnie & America-Online: shrinkit
>Apple IIGS System Software                 CompuServe: 70771,2615    
>Apple Computer, Inc.                         InterNET: shrinkit@apple.com


I'm sorry Andy, you seem to have gotten the wrong idea. What I meant to reply
to was a post where you stated that you were not telling any more or any less
than you knew just because you were now working at Apple. I do not now, nor hav
e
I ever had any doubts about your integrity, but I do feel that you must still
be bound by a non-disclosure agreement. So while you almost certainly must
know more (about APple's plans/developments/etc), you probably cannot tell us.
It seems that I grabbed the text about the Ivory tower by mistake, my apologies
.
I do not think of you in an Ivory Tower. 

But you deleted the line about the value of your contributions. Perhaps
you were a bit upset, but that was my main point. Few in the Apple community
have done more. I still love my //gs, and I certainly have no complaint's
about yourself. 

Pat yourself on the back, you've earned it, and more. And you're not the only
one who works 80 hour weeks. Though I have been keeping them in the 60-70
hour range for now. But the next new product will change that. And I fully
understand the remark about the loss of a personal life. This part hurts
more than anything else sometimes.



Rich