Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!batcomputer!cornell!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!o.gp.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!gt0t+ From: gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gregory Ross Thompson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: a2r&d v apple Message-ID: Date: 28 Apr 91 06:48:38 GMT References: <3415@kluge.fiu.edu> Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 57 In-Reply-To: <3415@kluge.fiu.edu> acmfiu@serss0.fiu.edu (ACMFIU) writes: > . if everyone agreed with me the II line would be dead within a month. i > . sure wish for this but it will never happen. i'm also sure there would be > . people in the apple II software business aiming to shoot me in the head if > . i could make this decision. So let me get this straight... You love you ][ so much that you want Apple to stop making it... Lemme guess, you loved your wife so much, you killed her so she'd never leave you, eh? > . i hope no one out there sees me as some "kid" ('kid' i am not) who wants > . to end the II line just to end it. i do have a reason and have made that > . clear. i love my II and will always be programming for it. one of the > . reasons the II continues to live today is because of the religious > . following it has. do you see people swearing by the IBM, Sun, NeXT, etc. > . like us apple II folk are. i doubt it. that's also too bad. the II is > . one of the few remaining hacking machines. all these "today" computers > . just eat up gobbs and gobbs of memory and then kiss that "oversight" > . aside because they have some screamin' RISC chip which they spent x dollars > . on. i'm happy with my II though. what other computer ("today" computer), > . will let you drop into the internals of the machine and do as you please. > . how many "today" computer vendors encourage you to program in assembly > . (let's forget portability here). and how many of their end users get > . psyched when they spend x number of hours figuring out what address $xxxx > . is for (oops, insert more x's for them "today" 32-bit mega-machines). Okay, you like your ][. That's good. I like mine too. So why the heck do you want Apple to STOP supporting it? > . the II will always be alive. at least that's my naive viewpoint. the GS > . is definitely a better II. and i'm glad i have one. Yeah, with your attitude, it won't... > . ps. when was the last time you programmed on your favorite mega-machine > . and the size of your program was _less_ than the size of your code? Tell ya what. Port Mathematica over to the GS, okay? Yeah, you guessed it. You can't. At least, you can't do a good job. I'm not trying to insult you. I'm stating a simple fact. The GS CANNOT do a competent job on something like Mathematica. That's why you buy that DECStation 3100, or that '040 NeXT box. Because it CAN do a good job. Hell, I use my GS all the time. I also use DECStations a lot. I love 'em both. I don't want DEC to go belly-up so that the 3100 will be immortalized, nor do I want Apple to go belly-up. The Apple ][ has already made it's mark. It's an amazing machine. Why do you want Apple to die? > . albert -Greg T. InterNet: gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu BITNet : R746GT0T@CMCCVB AOL : GRThompson