Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!ucsd!hub.ucsb.edu!ucsbuxa!6600prao From: 6600prao@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Parik Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Your Ultima Quote Message-ID: <10920@hub.ucsb.edu> Date: 29 Apr 91 02:34:09 GMT References: <5970.apple2.info.apple@pro-micol> <14795@darkstar.ucsc.edu> <854@seer.UUCP> Sender: news@hub.ucsb.edu Lines: 40 Just out of curiousity... have you bought Dragon Wars GS? Or Immortals GS? or Cryllan Mission 2088 GS? or Space Ace GS? or Rastan GS (ok, granted, that ones a little tough to get ahold of). Here's a neat little story. Dragon Wars GS has sold around 600 copies (it was 500 about a month ago, hopefully 100 have been sold by then). Will harvey is very disappointed with the sales of Immortals GS, I'd expect it to be around 1000. Even Victory Software hasn't had a smashing success with Cryllan Mission (the first or second scenarios), and their game is a Ultima style game. Nor has space Ace GS done well. Taito dumped all their computer games, so they're sorta irrelevent. The point - all these professed users don't seem to be buying games. Accolade dumped the IIgs when their game sales didn't even help break even (TDII, Grand Prix, etc). BTW, these aren't numbers just off the top of my head, Bill Heineman posted the #s on a service a while back, and Accolade/Taito/Sierra/ Brian Greenstone (who is now doing Super Nintendo games, btw), Readysoft, etc, etc all have come onto chats on other services and stated the above. And as someone said a while back, in 1989 Origin released all their games on AII format 1st (remember a ton of 128k dblhires games?) and almost went bankrupt. That sorta thing wakes up a company I guess. This is not to be a negative "god, we're all dying like rats" message, just a observation that things aren't completely rosy. my suggestion - pick up a couple games AND SEND IN THE WARRANTY! Buy from a local dealer so he at least stocks stuff on the shelves. Get your friends to buy cool games (Immortals GS is *AWESOME*, I even bought it directly from EA for $50 - 18002454525) and perhaps publishers will realize that there IS a market! But they've been burned too often to commit themselves to GS development anymore...:( -- Apple II Forever | 6600prao@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu | IBMs get the job done Parik Rao | Amiga - for the creative mind | Class of 1994 Macintosh - buy it or Apple will sue you.