Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!diemen!tasman!steveh From: steveh@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Steven Howell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: Apple Trade-in Offer Message-ID: Date: 26 Apr 91 15:51:39 GMT References: <3757@ux.acs.umn.edu> Sender: news@diemen.utas.edu.au Lines: 66 Hmmmm, there are some people who have decided to avoid the obvious. That is time... The prices of components have come down something bad. Every tom dick and Harry can have a chip made for good price. And apple have recovered a million times over what they spent on the finder and System programming. As for Rom, they have made little additions, just making their programs more economical for speed and minor alterations for long word software. (But yes, it is advanced stuff, and todays valu for it is priceless). Apple are buying chips at very good prices, thay are actually make a similar profit to what they did when the plus was being sold for $4000+. As to donations of old equipment, we actually send them off to our engineering dept, where they are used there for experiments, or they are sold for charm.. SUN's ay' well, we buy rather stupid ammounts of these units, as with most people who can afford these units. They charge, the average stupid price, and we pay, because like most places who buy them, thay have stupid ammounts to spend. I don't give half a oodle to what is costs to fix a sun, as long as we get it fixed, even if it means replacing the entire $35k server. Its a industrial piece of equipment. (and don't tell me the average high school hacker kid has a spark station at home on his coffee table), like mac's are. Its the students where i get my feed back from. The idiots that work in the hot dog house all weekend to make a miserable $100 bucks. It these people that have become dependent on apple, as apple have made them selve's at home in most universities. certainly they have use to lab machines but some cannot wait on a 2 week waiting list, just to work 8 horrible hours non-stop on a mac, just because they got it. So they lash out and buy one. But before they know it, we (the Uni) upgrade all our machines, and use better software, which they cannot use due to their old machine. Wow, do i get hasseled over this or what. I hear enough excuses to deck apple in a day, than what i have even thought i would hear in 10 years. Its just the way the bickie breaks! steve h Systems engineer (SUN&APPLE) University Of Tasmania PS. My apple history goes back as far as when woz was shipping the suitcase ap1 model. Things were real HOT then, But it still makes me wonder what the company would be like if Steve & Steve were still at the reigns today.....