Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!dali.cs.montana.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!lll-winken!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!widener!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!eniac.seas.upenn.edu!eck From: eck@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Hangnail Whipperwill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: $99 for System 7.0?!? Message-ID: <41947@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 25 Apr 91 06:03:40 GMT Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Reply-To: eck@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Hangnail Whipperwill) Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 41 Nntp-Posting-Host: eniac.seas.upenn.edu Can anyone in a position to do so please confirm or deny MacWeek's quote of "The single-user upgrade (to System 7.0), to be priced at *$99*, includes 90 days of free technical support via a toll-free number"? A HUNDRED DOLLARS? Yeah, that's going to help Apple dispel their overpriced image REAL fast. Especially if they charge people who buy new systems after May 13 for the upgrade as well, which the article also claims Apple is planning on. I sincerely hope the article is hype, as most of MacWeek usually is. A hundred dollars, even with a million days of telephone support, is prohibitively expensive for me to justify spending. An Apple representative had quoted me a price of $60 three weeks ago, and that didn't even include the full 600-page documentation, just a condensed "startup" packet consisting of maybe two hundred. The 600-pager would only go to site licensers. If I'm going to even consider paying a hundred bucks for any kind of software, it had better darn well come with all the documentation! Is this Apple's evil plan, to make us use the telephone line because the manual's most technical line is "Some applications may not work with System 7.0. Experiment!" I don't know about the rest of the world, but if System 7 crashes my machine at 3am, I want to be able to find the answer to the problem right then, not wait until 9am PST to talk to some stupid customer service rep hired for three months to handle the crunch. Sorry if I sound a little upset, but I AM. Sure, Apple has a right to make money (or at least break even) on this new system; I've seen the betas, and I'll gladly pay for the software and documentation. But a hundred dollars (and no educational discount)? Forget it. Just my opinion. Brian Eck P.S. So as not to seem like just a bitcher, here are some alternatives: Perhaps a reduced-price version (maybe $50) that includes more hardcopy documentation but no telephone service? Perhaps an educational discount? Perhaps offer a price discount if you only want access to their automated help line? Anything? Please?