Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!ox.com!math.fu-berlin.de!uniol!Gerhard.Moeller From: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Gerhard Moeller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Steven P. Jobs reality distortion field? Message-ID: Date: 24 Apr 91 12:04:09 GMT References: <1991Apr21.060729.21077@rick.cs.ubc.ca> <1991Apr22.163450.1@sif.claremont.edu> <1504@toaster.SFSU.EDU> Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany Lines: 49 Hello everybody. (exspecially those guys who work for NeXT) Just a few words from my point of view. (I'm German, studying Computing Science at Oldenburg, FRG) You are discussing if NeXT is treating you well or not. Ok, here's how they treat us in Europe: Students pay the same as any rich company or any person on the street. There is NO special offer at all. (However, they promised to give 5% off... - Probably after they raised the prices.) For me it is cheaper to buy a color-SPARC than a color-NeXT. This is because sun makes good university-offers. MOST companies (sun, apple, etc.) have VERY GOOD OFFERS for students (up to 40% off). NeXT doesn't seem interested. Why? Well, I guess the problem is the following: Motorola is - as far as I know - still not able to sell the 68040 processors in reasonable amounts. NeXT sells more computers than they can build. In Germany the industry seems to be a more profitable market than universities. And there might be some other reasons as well... BTW: A slab 8/105 costs 10.800 DM, which is about 6500 US$. A i486 WITH interactive or SCO costs about the same. (But you wouldn't have the other software ;-) - anyhow, many students I know would prefer a NeXT, but they are ending up with a sun or a 386/486.) Please, do NOT start discussing about advantages and disadvantages of those systems, I'm just telling how the situation is like. For me, it is a matter of principle: I cannot see why I should support a company that doesn't support students. Yours Gerhard. PS.: Please excuse my bad English, but it's not my mother tongue. PPS: I told that already to Greg Bailor, who is one of the officials in Europe. If you are interested in his answer, just mail me. (Greg: if you don't want me to post your answer, mail me.) PPPS: I still try to get a NeXT from the US of America. G. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ | Gerhard Moeller, Teichstrasse 12, 2900 Oldenburg (FRG) [Geb. 02/21/68] | | inhouse: gimli!gemoe uucp: ...(unido!)uniol!gmoeller | |DOMAIN: gerhard.moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de | |BITNET: gmoeller%arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de@DOLUNI1 (106495@DOLUNI1) | +-----------------------> the medium is the message <-----------------------+