Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ukma!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!gatech!prism!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!uflorida!math.ufl.edu!shadrach.math.ufl.edu!bb From: bb@math.ufl.edu (Brian Bartholomew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: 16mb minimum for next machines Message-ID: Date: 27 Apr 91 01:13:38 GMT References: <3381@kluge.fiu.edu> Sender: news@math.ufl.edu Organization: University of Florida Department of Mathematics Lines: 45 In-Reply-To: acmfiu@serss0.fiu.edu's message of 23 Apr 91 02:03:43 GMT In article <3381@kluge.fiu.edu> acmfiu@serss0.fiu.edu (ACMFIU) writes: > does anyone remember the days of the apple II and 64k when that was a > lot. Yep. I echo Mark Adler's comments. > and to say that a "personal" workstation such as the next needs 16mb > to run under is quite pathetic. The "average" memory size, disk space, and cpu speeds for "workstations" have been doubling every two years for the last 15 years, while remaining at the same price; and they show no signs of slowing down. You are of course welcome to use any computing tools that you wish, no matter how slow, limited, or obsolete they may be. However, I'm not going to do so. I've described an exponential curve; deal with it. You can keep up or fall behind. It's that simple. > just what types of memory gobbing programs are you people running on > this thing. Oh, full PostScript language interpreters, for instance. As a consequence, if you can print something, you can include it (and view it) in any other program. Human interface development environments that bring a new level of programmer productivity by allowing unused ("dead") code to be left in a program while new code is patched in around it (the direct results of "inheritance"). The machine is fast enough and cheap enough, and I can write finished, polished applications an order of magnitude faster. So where is the problem? > and whatever application it is, i can't see how it's making good use > of the memory it has available. Since you promote yourself as someone who couldn't possibly write programs this big, what experience could you possibly have to make such a statement with authority? -- "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Bartholomew UUCP: ...gatech!uflorida!beach.cis.ufl.edu!bb University of Florida Internet: bb@math.ufl.edu