Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!msi.umn.edu!noc.MR.NET!gacvx2.gac.edu!gacvx2.gac.edu!scott From: scott@texnext.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: RISC vs. CISC -- SPECmarks Message-ID: Date: 27 Apr 91 14:21:27 GMT Article-I.D.: texnext.SCOTT.91Apr27092127 References: <1991Apr18.180538.1@sif.claremont.edu><1991Apr26.163303.8614@kithrup.COM> Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College Lines: 37 Nntp-Posting-Host: texnext.gac.edu In-reply-to: sef@kithrup.COM's message of 26 Apr 91 16:33:03 GMTLines: 37 In article <1991Apr26.163303.8614@kithrup.COM> sef@kithrup.COM (Sean Eric Fagan) writes: In article scott@texnext.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes: >If you look, you'll see that all of the chips that have been created in the >past couple years seem to be RISC chips (this was brought to my attention >by a prof in one of my classes just this spring). It seems to be true! >What it makes one wonder is whether the naming of chips like the RIOS >RISC is done because they are really RISC, or because RISC is what >people want. Considering all I've seen on the RIOS (not much, >admitedly), I'd say it's more of a CISC that uses some of the things >that RISC people have found to be helpful to make fast chips. Let me get this straight: the chip's implementation is complex (although it is still basicly a load/store architecture, and looks a lot like any other "RISC" chip), therefore it is a Complex Instruction Set Computer? Wow. I'm impressed. What the hell are they teaching you people? Wow. I'm impressed. Did you read any of my article at all? What I said was that many chips nowadays are called RISC because RISC is "in". Sort of a fad, in other words. To reword it yet again (just in case you missed it) - the number of people calling their new designs "RISC" has weakened the meaning of the term tremendously. MIPS, for instance, seems fairly close to the spirit of RISC. Sparc, likewise. RIOS, meanwhile, is streching things a bit. And why else would a beast like the '040 be called 'RISC-like in many ways'? Later, -- scott hess scott@gac.edu Independent NeXT Developer GAC Undergrad "Simply press Control-right-Shift while click-dragging the mouse . . ." "I smoke the nose Lucifer . . . Banana, banana."