Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!uc!ag.msc.edu!ken From: ken@ag.msc.edu (Ken Chin-Purcell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi Subject: Re: x-windows + startup Message-ID: <3979@uc.msc.umn.edu> Date: 26 Apr 91 13:48:32 GMT References: <1991Apr24.185317.18419@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Sender: news@uc.msc.umn.edu Reply-To: ken@msc.edu Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center Lines: 28 Daniel Katz writes: ....My .login contains: .... .... xinit -- /usr/bin/X11/Xsgi -pseudo .... xclock -g 200x200+180+40 -bg blue -fg white -hd grey & .... xbiff -g +30+220 & I'll give this a stab... Right now, X is layered on top of NeWS. So when you log in, NeWS starts up (the blue background is a consequence of this.) Then your .login starts up the X server. At this point there is still a blue background (i.e. no X root window). The familiar X root window appears only when twm starts up. When you quit twm, the X server is still alive! You just lose the root window. Don't panic, just take the extra step of logging out of NeWS. This will kill the root process of your session, which of course zaps everything. You could be brutal and send a '/etc/killall news_server' after you quit twm. The gentle user just exits twice, (1) X, (2) NeWS. BTW, with IRIX 4.0 it looks like SGI will implement a 'normal' X startup sequence (no need to hand start X with xinit, no more NeWS lurking beneath your noble X windows). :) -- -- Ken Chin-Purcell, Graphics, AHPCRC, Minnesota Supercomputer Ctr. -- also known as ken@msc.edu and 612-626-8090