Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!rpi!uupsi!ficc!peter From: peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals Subject: Re: X11 bashing Message-ID: <1EZA5J4@xds13.ferranti.com> Date: 25 Apr 91 14:33:43 GMT References: <16818@chaph.usc.edu> <558@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> <1991Apr25.022055.27604@neon.Stanford.EDU> Reply-To: peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) Organization: Xenix Support, FICC Lines: 18 In article <1991Apr25.022055.27604@neon.Stanford.EDU> sidana@neon.Stanford.EDU (Ashmeet S Sidana) writes: > But herein lies the problem. X was NOT designed to provide a > user-interface. One of the goals of the original design WAS > separation of policy and mechanism. So saying "X did it wrong" is > incorrect. What they set out to do they achieved. That's right. The spec was right for a research system. It was, however, quite wrong for a commercial system. The problem isn't X, it's all the lazy manufacturers (and customers) who are using X outside its design goals. I don't care about the politics. I just want something that works without multiple megabytes of duplicated effort. Commercial X is like multiuser DOS: a horrible waste of resources. A good commercial windowing system should be able to run in a $500 box: server, apps, the whole thing. -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' peter@ferranti.com +1 713 274 5180. 'U` "Have you hugged your wolf today?"