Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!samsung!munnari.oz.au!yoyo.aarnet.edu.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!levels!xtdn From: xtdn@levels.sait.edu.au Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals Subject: Re: X11 bashing Message-ID: <16255.281ad3e8@levels.sait.edu.au> Date: 28 Apr 91 04:23:44 GMT References: <1991Apr16.210107.41817@eagle.wesleyan.edu> <1991Apr17.040918.12203@Think.COM> <.VXAREE@xds13.ferranti.com> <16818@chaph.usc.edu> Organization: University of South Australia Lines: 20 jeenglis@alcor.usc.edu (Joe English) writes: >>Eventually they realised it and built a toolkit >>that let you work with those objects, > > Actually, this was one of the original design decisions. > "Tools, not rules" -- you can replace the toolkit > if you want. You can't do that on a Mac. I'm not a Mac programmer so what I'm about to say is hearsay. I have heard it said (by someone who *is* a Mac programmer) that you can replace pieces of the Mac toolkit; and that it's not hard to do that. (Apparently you replace the appropriate trap vector.) Don't beat on the Mac, people, it's a fine attempt at a GUI and quite possibly it's done more to popularise the concept than has any other (related) product. Sure it might have some warts but those guys were forging relatively new ground. David Newall, 16:32:56.04, Tuesday, 1991 Phone: +61 8 344 2008 "Life is uncertain: Eat dessert first" E-mail: xtdn@lux.sait.edu.au