Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!nsc!pyramid!infmx!aland From: aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386 Subject: Re: Does ESIX still not support RLL? Summary: the compatibility myth Message-ID: <1991Apr23.193727.12155@informix.com> Date: 23 Apr 91 19:37:27 GMT References: <1991Apr21.155642.1586@shambala.uucp> <1991Apr22.210543.27730@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov> <512@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com> Sender: news@informix.com (Usenet News) Organization: Alferd Packer's Legendary Coronary Fast Food Cannibal Bar & Buffet Lines: 52 In article <512@pyrite.nj.pyramid.com> bill@pyrite.UUCP (Bill Pechter) writes: >In article <1991Apr22.210543.27730@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov> kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov (Kaleb Keithley) writes: >>The myth that ESIX doesn't support RLL controllers is a bit of marketing >>hype. ESIX documentation states unequivocally that ESIX does support >>RLL, and I can unequivocally state that both 5.3.2.C and 5.3.2.D both >>support RLL very nicely. > >But when I call them and ask if it'll run with my Perstor controller they >refuse to say it will. I can't see laying out the money for a copy of >Unix that may not work on my machine. If they could tell me that it works >the check would be in the mail today. > >Bill Pechter This isn't a fair criticism. What ESIX is really saying by "refusing to say that (insert nonstandard controller name here) will" work is that they don't include that particular hardware as part of their test procedure, so they don't want to make any claim about the compatibility of any vendor whose hardware they have not tested for compatibility. I can't remember if Perstor is a caching controller or a compressing/reconfiguring one, but the similar principle applies regardless. If the *hardware* vendor claims that they are "100% compatible with X", that doesn't necessarily mean that the software vendor can take that at face value. (Boy, could I tell you some horror stories... BIG NAME companies don't even get this right always.) The way I'd look at it is this: if the *hardware* vendor is making compatibility claims, and they are willing to back such claims with a no-fault return policy, fine. But if you encounter problems with hardware that the o/s vendor doesn't claim to support (and lacks the means to test in-house), it's hardly fair to blame the o/s vendor. If the problem doesn't reproduce in a supported configuration, there's not a whole lot that they can do. For example: let's say somebody's using a DPT caching controller without a UPS and the power goes out. The resulting corruption is severe enough to thoroughly trash your database (on a raw partition) and a couple of file systems beyond easy repair. Now, in their ads, DPT claims "100% compatibility" with WD1003 interfaces, and the WD1003 is a supported controller. Is it ESIX's fault that your data is trashed? -- Alan Denney aland@informix.com {pyramid|uunet}!infmx!aland I says, "Earl, this hill can spill us you better slow down or you're gonna kill us just make one mistake, and it's the Pearly Gates for them 85 crates of U.S.D.A.-approved cluckers. You wanna hit second gear, please?" -- 'C. W. McCall', "Wolf Creek Pass"