Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!ai-lab!geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu!fidelio From: fidelio@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Rob J. Nauta) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: new password idea Message-ID: <15240@life.ai.mit.edu> Date: 24 Apr 91 16:04:51 GMT References: <26616@adm.brl.mil> Sender: news@ai.mit.edu Organization: The TimeWasters Lines: 32 In article <26616@adm.brl.mil> poulin@polar.bowdoin.edu (Jeff Poulin) writes: ->I think as long as a password file is available for anyone to read, there ->will be some abuse. Sure, it's dumb to use a word in the dictionary as a ->password, but I've seen ridiculously complicated passwords here these past ->few days. No matter how confuscated your password may be, it still boils ->down to a guessing game between you and the cracker. You try to pick a ->combination the cracker is not likely to try, and he (or she) will try to ->outsmart you by choosing it. -> ->If you're really worried about kids getting into your account (an adult who ->tries to pick people's passwords is considered a child in my book), then ->write a password program for yourself and run it from .cshrc (or ->whatever). That way, even if someone breaks into your account, they ->still have another password to crack before they have access to your ->files. If the second password is incorrect, your password program simply logs ->you out. Since the file with the password encryption resides in your account, ->you don't have to worry that someone is cracking your password on some PC ->somewhere. -> ->Jeff -> -> ->Jeff Poulin poulin@polar.bowdoin.edu jpoulin@bowdoin.bitnet Hi What would stop someone who has your password, and noticed the custom program kicks him out, to ftp to your account, examine .profile or .login, and even remove/alter them, or the password program itself ? Rob