Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!lll-winken!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!widener!netnews.upenn.edu!vax1.cc.lehigh.edu!cert.sei.cmu.edu!krvw From: padgett%tccslr.dnet@uvs1.orl.mmc.com (A. Padgett Peterson) Newsgroups: comp.virus Subject: Re: AF/91 and April Foolism in general Message-ID: <0005.9104231715.AA16173@ubu.cert.sei.cmu.edu> Date: 22 Apr 91 17:07:35 GMT Sender: Virus Discussion List Lines: 33 Approved: krvw@sei.cmu.edu >From: dank@stealth.usc.edu (Dan King) >Viruses are a problem. A big one. Are they're going to get worse. >Come on, don't pick on the users. Attack, instead, the virus authors. The real problem is that MS-DOS, like the Mac OS, has NO integrity checking and that viruses are remarkably easy to write. It would be easy to legislate viruses out of existance except that it is difficult to arrest a virus. Laws are only effective as a remedy after the fact, most people are more concerned with not being infected in the firstc place. >From: keir@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Rick Keir, MACC) >You HAVE to be vigilant because there are many REAL viruses out there. This is the only effective procedure. If it places too heavy a burden on the users than it is up to technology to determine an acceptable solution. As in many areas of social intercourse, nothing is no longer acceptable. From one standpoint, we have been very lucky to have been stuck by so many inept and essentially benign viruses over the last few years. This has given up an effective learning period where ignorance was both the norm and curable. Today, things are quite different. The writers of viruses have been learning at the same time we have and Windows/DOS 5 provide more opportunities for intrusion (actually many of these "holes" have existed since DOS 3.0 in 1984, jut had not been exploited). To those who have been paying attention, it should be obvious that protection layered on to of DOS is no longer sufficient, integrity management must (and can easily) start at the BIOS level. The fact that so many current viruses do so (Stoned, Joshi, MusicBug, Empire, etc) should be evidence enough.