Newsgroups: rec.skydiving Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!bloom-picayune.mit.edu!athena.mit.edu!jnrees From: jnrees@athena.mit.edu (Jim Rees) Subject: Re: AFF Fatality Message-ID: <1991Apr24.195157.19924@athena.mit.edu> Sender: news@athena.mit.edu (News system) Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology References: <2809.28158962@ehsnet.fidonet.org> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 91 19:51:57 GMT Lines: 22 In article <2809.28158962@ehsnet.fidonet.org> SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.FIDONET.ORG (SKYDIVE) (Mike Johnston) writes: safety. >... The >fatality with the non-rated JM just shows that the instructor training >system works pretty well, it did screen this guy out. This statement is a leap of logic and is inconsistent with the spirit of the rest of the article. The unrated JM fails the AFF course and subsequently a student of his is killed, therefore the AFF course works? Surely the non-rated JM did not plan on letting his student die, and as was stated earlier in the article, the student is responsible for saving him/herself on any skydive. One datapoint among the countless AFF skydives with rated and un-rated AFF JM's does not say much. Besides, in light of recent events, there have been equal numbers of AFF student fatalities with rated and un-rated JM's. Does this mean that the AFF course makes no difference? Jim Rees D-13359 (rated) AFF JM '91