Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!pilchuck!dataio!fnx!del From: del@fnx.UUCP (Dag Erik Lindberg) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: light bulbs buzz when dimmed Message-ID: <960@fnx.UUCP> Date: 26 Apr 91 18:39:23 GMT References: <7893@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> <1991Apr4.031246.14045@athena.cs.uga.edu> <1991Apr22.161357.23840@syssoft.com> Organization: I/Ovations Kirkland, WA Lines: 30 In article <1991Apr22.161357.23840@syssoft.com> tom@syssoft.com (Rodentia) writes: >To summarize: If dimming by chopping cycles or half cycles of the 60Hz >waveform causes audio noise based on these 60 or 120 Hz fundamentals, >couldn't the noise be made inaudible by doing the chopping at some >inaudible frequency such as 20KHz? Yes > Would this be less efficient or >more expensive than the other (transformer based, I believe) approach >mentioned in this forum? Or would it just not work? Well, it wouldn't work using the inexpensive technology most of the dimmers available are based on. That being the SCR or TRIAC. These devices can be triggered, or 'fired' at an arbitrary time, but can not be turned off, period. They are essentially 're-armed' when current stops flowing in them, or every time the AC reverses direction. This means that no matter what frequency you modulate the triggering, they can only be turned off 120 times a second. In order to do what you want, you would need to use high voltage power transistors, at considerably greater expense, not only for the transistors themselves, but for the triggering circuitry. The triggering circuitry is not inherently more expensive, but high volume demand exists for SCR trigger circuits and a wide variety of packaged solutions exist at low cost. -- del AKA Erik Lindberg uunet!pilchuck!fnx!del Who is John Galt?