Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero-c!nadel From: rberlin%birdlandEng@Sun.COM (Rich Berlin) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: does healthy, mutual erotica exist? Message-ID: <12239@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> Date: 25 Apr 91 19:07:49 GMT References: Sender: news@eng.sun.com Reply-To: rberlin@eng.sun.com Organization: Sun Microsystems Lines: 19 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org In article , muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes: |> I certainly don't think that posing for Playboy is the only way, or |> even a particularly good way, of dispelling stereotypes. A better, |> and more productive, way might be to actually get more women into CS. |> This just made me wonder - has there been any effort to dispell the |> image of male programmers as being unattractive by having them pose |> nude? Is there still a Playgirl magazine, perhaps, to do this? According to the stereotype as I understand it, what makes us "unattractive" is not our looks, it's that we have poor social skills (even compared to other males?) and prefer the company of computers to that of live people. (NB: if the previous sentence doesn't sound angry or resentful, I think you're reading it wrong.) Can someone explain how posing nude would provide an opportunity to dispel that sterotype? I can just imagine women looking at my body and fantasizing about what an interesting conversationalist and supportive partner I'd be. :-) -- Rich