Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!ucivax!gateway From: falk@peregrine.eng.sun.COM (Ed Falk) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: does healthy, mutual erotica exist? Message-ID: <12293@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> Date: 26 Apr 91 14:48:49 GMT References: <1991Apr15.170141.19828@watcgl.waterloo.edu> <1991Apr19.213039*Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no> <2825@odin.cs.hw.ac.uk> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca. Lines: 34 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu In article <2825@odin.cs.hw.ac.uk> monaghan@cs.heriot-watt.ac.uk (N.O. Monaghan) writes: > It always seems somewhat strange that Playboy is considered as the > shining example of 'soft porn.' From what I have seen of it, there is > in fact very little nudity in it - I think about 4 or 5 pages in the > centre of what is a fairly bulky magazine. I think there's more than 4 or 5 pages, but not being a regular Playboy reader I wouldn't swear to it. I think it's more a case of a nudie magazine with enough bulk added to (a) make it seem more respectable, and (b) make the magazine more expensive. In this country, there's very little mainstream soft porn. No page 3 girls, no casual nudity in the weeklies, almost nothing. Playboy is just about all the soft porn there is. (Although for a while in the 70's Newsweek (Time too? I don't remember) experimented with casual nudity; I remember seeing a pictorial review of Last Tango In Paris.) >There are a couple of German weekly magazines which seem to have quite >a few posed nudes scattered through them - it seems somewhat strange >as they do not seem to be aimed at a solely male audience - ... I was astonished the last time I looked through a copy of Vogue (something I do as often as I look through Playboy -- very rarely.) and saw all the nudity it contained. It seems that women like to look at women too. You can look at the cover of any issue of Cosmo and see that for yourself. I wonder why not nude men? Is it because women readers actually prefer pictures of women? Or maybe the editors or advertisers do. Maybe they want to, but haven't got the guts. -ed falk, sun microsystems sun!falk, falk@sun.com In the future, somebody will quote Andy Warhol every 15 minutes.