Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: billg@bony1.bony.com (Bill Gripp) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Born Again Message-ID: Date: 25 Apr 91 03:45:46 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Bank of New York Lines: 12 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article why@kpc.com (Will Hyde) writes: >In article davidbu@loowit.wr.tek.com (David E. Buxton) writes: >> >> This being born again into Judaism means that from >>then on they are considered to be of the lineage of Abraham, that >>Abraham is now their father, Abraham being considered the first Jew. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I would leave it up to the Jews to decide who the first Jew was, but this implies that that ALL the Arabs (who are also decended from Avram) are also Jews. Some sources claim that Jacob (after he was "renamed" Israel) was the first Jew. Abraham is the "father of many nations" but I would not necessarily call him the first Jew.