Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: conan@ragu.berkeley.edu (David Cruz-Uribe) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Is Christianity Christian? Message-ID: Date: 28 Apr 91 22:14:24 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department. Lines: 17 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article jmgreen@pilot.njin.net (Jim Green) writes: >I guess the answer to your Subject question (Is Christianity Christian?) >is that in the main no it is not. ... >The pre-Nicene Fathers (eg Ignatius, Origen, Clement, and Tertullian) >experienced, fretted, fought and finally accepted the inevitable. Yes, >heresies, were both eliminated AND promoted for political reasons... >Agustine struggled his entire life to piece together and make sense of the >shambles that was left after Nicaea, but by then the Lord's Church was pretty >much dead. ... Then, of course, came the reformation -- such as it was. Could you clarify and support this line of reasoning? While I do not claim to be an expert in patristics, this does not fit in well with what little I know about the period you are talking about. Yours in Christ, David Cruz-Uribe, SFO