Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!mahendo!poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV!earle From: earle@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV (Greg Earle - Sun JPL on-site Software Support) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: T1000 and 2400 baud vs. 9600 for interactive use Message-ID: <6196@mahendo.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> Date: 2 May 91 07:49:25 GMT Sender: news@mahendo.Jpl.Nasa.Gov Followup-To: comp.dcom.modems Organization: Sun Microsystems - JPL on-site Software Support Lines: 42 The argument that 9600 baud modems are not worth buying over 2400 baud modems because "You can't read that fast" is specious. I have 2 Telebit TrailBlazer Plus modems. At home, I've alternately had my trusty (crusty?) old Wyse 75 terminal, and a borrowed SPARCstation-1+ from work. While trying to use PPP with the SPARCstation, I cursed the fact that I didn't have a V.32 or V.32bis modem. But it's still faster than 2400 baud. To transfer files, if I didn't want to use "rcp" or "ftp", I used UUCP instead and I was damn glad to have PEP and UUCP spoofing available instead of 2400 baud. Now that I'm back to a plain terminal again, there's still a win. No, I can't read faster than 2400 baud. Butif I'm in "rn", I see a full page appear on my screen much faster than at 2400 baud. If I decide I don't want to read it, I can hit "n" or "q" or whatever and get on with it much faster than waiting for a page that I don't want to read come up at 2400 baud. Also, anyone who runs on a BSD system and has a plain terminal with halfway decent capabilities would be insane not to use "screen" to multiplex it. When you have 2 or 3 (or 5) "screen" virtual terminal windows in use, and you switch between them, each time the full screen has to be refreshed. This happens a helluva lot faster with a 19200 baud PEP connection than it does at 2400 baud. Time spent waiting is wasted time. I can't get any useful work done at 1200 baud, it's just too slow. There's enough stutter start-stop in painting a screen's full of text in a 19200 baud PEP connection that I get annoyed sometimes. 2400 baud is useable, but barely tolerable. I equate a 2400 baud modem for dumb terminal interactive use with a PEP link for PPP - it's useable, but it's barely tolerable and eventually it gets on my nerves. After having the PEP modem I'd never be able to go back to a 2400 baud modem. And, if Telebit ever gets off their fannies and delivers a V.32bis successor to the T2500 (so I have a way to trade in my TB+'s), I suspect that after going to those, I will feel the same way about the TB+ as I do about 2400 baud modems. Onward and upward. -- - Greg Earle | "It's going to be Party Time when I Sun Microsystems, Los Angeles | shit out the Balloons" JPL on-site Software Support | earle@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV | - From a sheet of stamps I saw