Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!slxsys!ibmpcug!mantis!mathew From: mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Software "Engineers" Message-ID: <8H86113w164w@mantis.co.uk> Date: 29 Apr 91 14:59:42 GMT Article-I.D.: mantis.8H86113w164w References: <1991Apr25.234953.20537@dbase.A-T.COM> Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK. Lines: 29 tomr@dbase.A-T.COM (Tom Rombouts) writes: > Some of you may recall an article by Karen Hooten in "Computer Language" > last year titled "An Engineer by Any Other Name" As I recall, there > had been several legal decisions stating that as of this point in time > software developers are _not_ engineers. This was due in part to any > sort of standard training or licensing, akin to that found in other > professions such as law or medicine. In the UK, membership of the BCS (British Computer Society) and appropriate experience can gain you a formal software engineering qualification -- chartered engineer status. > I personally think it is pretentious for programmers to call > themselves "engineers" So do I. However, it is not pretentious for software engineers to call themselves engineers. There is a difference between a programmer and a software engineer, you see. I could be catty at this point and assert that software engineers are the ones who understand the value of techniques such as dynamic typing and formal correctness proofs, but I think this newsgroup has enough flames in it already. mathew -- If you're a John Foxx fan, please mail me!