Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!uwm.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!esoc!tgreenin From: TGREENIN@ESOC.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Software "Engineers" Message-ID: <91122.143429TGREENIN@ESOC.BITNET> Date: 2 May 91 13:19:32 GMT References: <3844@ssc-bee.ssc-vax.UUCP> <3379@charon.cwi.nl> <1991Apr25.234953.20537@dbase.A-T.COM> <52183@nigel.ee.udel.edu> Lines: 26 Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C) In article , CDHWilli@exua.exeter.ac.uk (Charles Williams) says: > >In this country loads of people call themselves engineers: train-drivers, >machine-shop technicians, TV repairpersons et al. and there is no law that >stops anyone from *calling* themself a software engineer. However the >mark of professional "Chartered" engineers is that they take responsibility >for the performance of their designs and that includes not only the >direct, but also in many cases any *consequential* loss or damage. One of the things that did annoy me in the UK was technicians/mechanics etc. describing themselves as "engineers". The British Computer Society (BCS) has become an Engineering Council member, and so membership of BCS now means that for a small additional fee one can become C.Eng. Getting the MBCS qualification requires a good honours degree in CS or a related / computer intensive discipline: e.g. maths, physics, engineering, plus an appropriate amount of post graduate experience and sufficient responsibility. As this is a bit off the beaten track, please send replies to SOC.CULTURE.BRITISH. Tim Greening-Jackson European Space Operations Centre, 6100 Darmstadt, Germany