Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnewse!cwpjr From: cwpjr@cbnewse.att.com (clyde.w.jr.phillips) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Amendments Summary: Constitution & Education Message-ID: <1991Apr30.151541.20622@cbnewse.att.com> Date: 30 Apr 91 15:15:41 GMT References: <1991Apr29.001738.1233@alphalpha.com> Distribution: na Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 66 In article <1991Apr29.001738.1233@alphalpha.com>, nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley) writes: > In article <1991Apr28.061119.18402@eecs.nwu.edu> ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu (Patrick A. Townson) writes: > >I wish you would recall that it is supposed to be 'we the people' who > >do the governing, make the laws and decide how things are done ... why > >aren't we allowed to do it any longer? > > Well actually, "we" never were. But my main fear is simply that the > majority of us are far too uneducated and short-sighted. That's an > incredibly elitist view of course, and I'm torn. I'd like to see > a real democracy, but I don't think that democracy without education > can work. But maybe I'm wrong. > > -- > Alfalfa Software, Inc. | Poste: The EMail for Unix > nazgul@alfalfa.com | Send Anything... Anywhere > 617/646-7703 (voice/fax) | info@alfalfa.com > > I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept > responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate > everyone else's. I agree with all I see written here but still detect somthing like a defeatist or creative funk... I'd like to see a true "Electoral College" where every pol running for office would have to prepare for 2-4 years a curricula that would be designed to model their complete "agenda". The competeing curicula would be made available for study and debate at all levels of society, from GED style presentations to advanced computer modeling studies bid out to competitive universities, with PD modeleing algorithms and PC demos for "the rest of us" to fool around with to get some ideas.. The curricula would have to be standardized only to the degree that percentages of effort were forced to be applied to social. political, security, economic, environment, international relations, resource issues, and forward looking studies. This would effectively cause bussiness to deal with 10 year planning because they'd have to get their fingers into the deal. ( At least 2-4 year planning vs 2-4 month ) After the "electoral college" term is over it would be up to the participating educated citizenry to "graduate" the paradigm/model/agenda that they truly understood the best and felt most comfortable with by casting their vote. What could be simpler? What we have that don't work! Why do we live with ad-hoc policy and pinnochio politicians? Because we have devised little to hold the accountable. Is this understandable or do I need to write a book? I asked that about the above, cause what I'll end with isn't that well presented for sure! I see our institutions as like the zoo trams, with the exception that there is no "govenor" on the engine of the government tram to prevent the tram driver ( pol ) from drag racing with the tram. And killing, maiming and terrifying all the people at the zoo... Clyde