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From: sdfusc@mac.cc.macalstr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: New baseline Amiga?
Message-ID: <1991Apr30.225022.372@mac.cc.macalstr.edu>
Date: 1 May 91 04:50:22 GMT
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In article <58430@sequent.UUCP>, cseaman@sequent.UUCP (Chris "The Bartman" Seaman) writes:
> xgr39@isuvax.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) writes:
> < uzun@pnet01.cts.com (Roger Uzun) writes:
> < >I think the focus should be on getting the price of the A500 to as low
> < >as possible.  Get it lower than it is today, and it will be more accepted
> < >by the mass market.
> < 
> <    I don't think this is the right way to go about marketing the A500 at
> < all.  A lower price would not necessarily guarantee it success.  I would
> < much rather have the price remain the same, and have the O.S. software
> < upgraded to AmigaOS2.0, and full ECS utilized, without being crippled.
> < (No more of that stupid practice of putting the Super Agnus in, and 
> < only having it address 512K)
> 
> I would tend to agree, though I question whether the ECS can be added
> without increasing the price of the unit.  Also, the addition of the
> ECS would imply the necessity of a multi-sync monitor, which adds to
> the cost to the consumer.
> 
> < >Basically what would the guestimate of the retail price on an 020 based
> < >32 bit A500 be?
> < >
> < >-Roger
> < 
> <    As many people would probably remember, I used to be a very strong
> < advocate of putting a 68020 into the A500 and A2000.  I no longer am.  I
> < have since realized that is plenty more that is important besides the
> < processor.  Instead of putting in a faster CPU into these systems, I
> < would much rather see Commodore include the display enhancer hardware,
> < an HD floppy drive, and a SCSI controller.  The display enhancer alone
> < would be far more useful in these systems than a faster CPU.
> < 
> <  / Marc Barrett
> 
> This is interesting.  I think these would be valuable additions to the
> A500, although there is the ever-present question of real estate.
> Fitting all these things in a stock A500 case might prove difficult.
> Then again, a case re-design might be in order, anyway :-).
> 
> The only real problem I would have with this is the display enhancer.
> Maybe there should be two models, one with, and one without.  Why?
> Cost.  There is no way that Commodore could include the display
> enhancer without bumping the list price of the machine.  Also, there
> are still those who are not bothered by the flicker, or simply won't be
> using their A500 in any of the interlaced modes.  Why should they pay
> for the extra hardware, not to mention the required multi-sync
> monitor?  Perhaps an A500, without the enhancer, and an A500E, with it,
> would be a good solution.
> 
> Regards,
> Chris
> 
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	Neither the ECS nor the A2320 REQUIRE a multisync; both will function
just fine with a VGA monitor (using some, but not all modes, namely PAL) or a
standard 1084/1084s/1084SD/1084whateverCBMfeelsliketoday.  With a 1084 series,
you simply won't gain the benefits of the additional hardware.