Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!rutgers!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Subject: Re: Graphics Chips Message-ID: <21173@cbmvax.commodore.com> Date: 2 May 91 21:00:23 GMT References: <1991May2.030706.30302@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA Lines: 33 In article <1991May2.030706.30302@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2fmlhiccup@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: >Here is a quick question... > Why is it so difficult to make display chips for the Amiga that will >allow it to do resolutions/colors that i see on VGA? What are the hardware >and software limitations? VGA chips are very simple chips. They were originally simple enough for IBM to build as a gate array (VGA == Video Gate Array). Amiga chips, on the other hand, are considerably more flexible, but also much more complex, and could only be built as full custom devices. I would guess that an implementation of the Amiga chips that does, more or less, the same resolutions as the basic VGA, 640x480x8 with 24 bit CLUT, would wind up more complex than IBM's latest XGA chips. You're certainly getting something for all that extra complexity, but it's not as easy to crank out. And of course, those several hundred Amiga chip registers should stay as compatible as possible in any such new design, or all those idiots bypassing the software interfaces will see their software break. To give you an idea of the relative timing of gate arrays vs. full custom, consider the A3000. I got seven revisions of the Buster chip between December '89 and May '90 (the last few revs were relatively minor compatibility tweaks). The last time I was waiting on a full custom part, the Chip Guys gave me two revisions in about the same time frame. The difference between 5,000-10,000 transistors and 100,000 transistors can be a significant one. >Jason Wilson -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy "That's me in the corner, that's me in the spotlight" -R.E.M.