Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!pa.dec.com!bacchus!mwm From: mwm@pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc Subject: Re: Replacement mouse for A1000 Message-ID: Date: 29 Apr 91 20:09:37 GMT References: Sender: news@pa.dec.com (News) Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica Lines: 52 In-Reply-To: alec_vondjidis@icecave.wimsey.bc.ca's message of 28 Apr 91 20:22:34 GMT In article alec_vondjidis@icecave.wimsey.bc.ca (Alec Vondjidis) writes: My dear friend if I was Logitech I'ld sue the pants off you (if I could). What you are suggesting if not outright illegal is certainly outright dishonest. Uh - make up your mind. Something can't be both not illegal and dishonest. Now, what I did was scummy and immoral, but that's my choice. Of course, if Logitech weren't being scummy and immoral in the first place, I wouldn't have resorted to what I did. It is nice people like you that contribute to mice costing $100 rather than $80, or less! How did I cost Logitech any money? And where do you buy mice that cost $100? Most of the ones I see are between $50 and $80. If you generate extra expences for the companies involved, guess who ends up paying for them. Their customers. Of which I'm one. On the other hand, why should I have to pay for a bus card can't be plugged into my computer, and software that won't run on it? I don't enjoy paying extra for you or anyone else that follows your advice. I don't enjoy paying for hardware and software I can't use. That's why I spent hours on the phone to Logitech, trying to convince them to sell me what I wanted without the subterfuge. That certainly cost them a handfull of money; it cost me a handfull of time and money. Encouraging others to do what I did might save them money in the long run, as opposed to people trying to talk them into selling the mouse. It seems that Logitech just doesn't want to do things that way, though. Logitech won't sell you a mouse without the extra hardware and software, except as a replacement. They won't sell you a replacement unless you've got serial & model numbers from the one you're replacing. The managers I talked to didn't want to believe that you could plug a Logitech mouse into anything but a Logitech card. As far as I'm concerned, Logitech deserves to have this kind of stuff pulled on them until they change their attitude. Had I not been able to play the return game, I would have called Logitech support, and bounced the board/software off of them because they wouldn't work in my computer until they got sick of it. It's not a legit protest because I profited from it, but it's in the same spirit.