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From: toddpw@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: APW (AKA Orca Shell)
Message-ID: <1991May3.203535.20959@nntp-server.caltech.edu>
Date: 3 May 91 20:35:35 GMT
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Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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ericmcg@pnet91.cts.com (Eric Mcgillicuddy) writes:

>Apple has absolved itself of all responsiblity for native mode Apple II
>development. Wanna program a GS? Get a Mac.

This is unfair to Apple, as I'm sure the Apple guys will be posting soon.

Parts of APW are officially owned by ByteWorks and licensed by Apple --
whenever they tried to develop APW it took forever because they had to
coordinate with ByteWorks about the changes and what was permissible
under the license.

MPW was developed internally at Apple and had no such restrictions, plus
they had lots of enterprising Mac programmers who wanted a decent programming
system with real shell commands :) so they worked long and hard on MPW without
anything holding them back.

Apple has finally given up trying to make APW reasonable, they recommend Orca
for native II development.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu