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From: carllp@diku.dk (Carl-Lykke Pedersen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: BSD and HPUX, The Questions Continue...
Keywords: bsd hpux
Message-ID: <1991May2.202710.5152@odin.diku.dk>
Date: 2 May 91 20:27:10 GMT
Sender: carllp@skinfaxe.diku.dk
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen
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We are considering switching partly over to HPUX. Until now we have
managed to stay in the BSD/SunOS-world, but we may be forced to
reconsider our objections to the sysV-world.

I like many things about HPUX. It has some of the best facilities from
BSD, and its not that hard to make a HPUX feel *almost* like a
BSD-system. But why, Oh why, doesn't HPUX go more of the way?

I would be much happier with HPUX if
	- chmod had an -R option
	- man used the PAGER and MANPATH environment-variable
	- diff could make context-diffs!
	- I could include <strings.h> as well as <string.h>
	- checklist was called fstab
	- ls -g showed the group
	- sam could use fully qualified domainnames
	- libBSD included some more functions (Why can't they be in libc?)
	- /usr/include/arpa contained some more files
	- quota existed on HPUX-filesystems
	- remsh was called rsh
	- SIGWINDOW was called SIGWINCH (and some program used it)
	-
	- ...

Most of these are just minor annoyances, but when they come in these
great numbers, they become a nuisance. I have bumped into all of the
above misfeatures without really digging into HPUX, so I'm concerned
with what I am going to discover if we convert to HPUX.

Are HPUX going to be better? Is HPUX 8.0? Will OSF/1 be?

Worse than nearly all the above is the different versions of HPUX for
the 300- and the 800-series. The "One disk -- One partion (Section?)"
for the 300-series are terrible. Will this ever change?

BTW: Is it possible to get a bug-list of known bugs in HPUX? I know
     Sun provides such a list, but then again, they need to do it with
     that code :-)

BTNW: Is it possible to get sources to HPUX, and if so, will I get
      them in my lifetime?

Regards
Carl-Lykke

PS: Thanks to all the HP-folks who helps us in this newsgroup, and to
    those people who have ported usefull software (like emacs, top,
    tcsh, perl ...) to HPUX.