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From: paul@prcrs.prc.com (Paul Hite)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: BSD and HPUX, The Questions Continue...
Keywords: bsd hpux
Message-ID: <1903@prcrs.prc.com>
Date: 3 May 91 20:10:31 GMT
References: <1991May2.202710.5152@odin.diku.dk>
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA
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In article <1991May2.202710.5152@odin.diku.dk>, carllp@diku.dk (Carl-Lykke Pedersen) writes:
> We are considering switching partly over to HPUX. Until now we have
> managed to stay in the BSD/SunOS-world, but we may be forced to
> reconsider our objections to the sysV-world.

Isn't SunOS basicly SysV.4 these days?  Anyway, I can help with some of your
complaints.  I have re-ordered them.

> I would be much happier with HPUX if
> 	- chmod had an -R option
> 	- quota existed on HPUX-filesystems
> 	- /usr/include/arpa contained some more files

This stuff is weeks away in HP-UX 8.0.

> 	- I could include <strings.h> as well as <string.h>
> 	- checklist was called fstab
> 	- remsh was called rsh

So "rm rsh" and create a few links.  I do agree that the System V rsh
should be purged from our existence.  It provides no real protection.

> 	- man used the PAGER and MANPATH environment-variable

man only uses its built-in pager if stdout is a tty.  man cat | pg works.
I use an alias:
		alias man 'man \!* |ssp|pg'

> BTW: Is it possible to get a bug-list of known bugs in HPUX? I know
>      Sun provides such a list, but then again, they need to do it with
>      that code :-)

Well, HP does publish a SSB (Software Status Bulletin).  It's hard to read.
If you buy HP's LaserROM product, you can have it on-line, which is much
better.

> BTNW: Is it possible to get sources to HPUX, and if so, will I get
>       them in my lifetime?

Well, if you have an AT&T System V.3 source license, it can be done.  We
paid $25,000 (I think) and got them.  The source for each product is 
priced separately.  So you might want LANLINK, ARPA, and NFS as well.
HP will not release the source for their C compiler under any circumstances.
(Or so we were told.)

Instead of simply looking at software, may I suggest that you include hardware
in your evaluation?   We didn't switch from another vendor to HP because we
wanted HP-UX over some other port of unix.

Paul Hite   PRC Realty Systems  McLean,Va   paul@prcrs.prc.com    (703) 556-2243
        You can't tell which way the train went by studying its tracks.